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			GUTMAN GROUP PHOTOS 
			PAGE 12     
			PHOTOS 
			NEEDING IDENTIFICATION     
				
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							These 
							photos are mounted together in the centre of a page 
							in Shirley Goodman's photo album. Although there is 
							no concrete evidence, it is possible that these two 
							were Ester Szajndl (aka Fanny) Gutman (née 
							Frydman) and Symcha (aka Simon) Gutman.   
							The 
							photo on the left is in particularly bad condition, 
							and has been repaired with Sellotape in the past. It 
							depicts a middle-aged woman, who could be anything 
							from 40 to 60 years old. The photo bears parts of 
							three circular rubber stamps, in violet ink, across 
							three of its corners. Just above the Sellotape on 
							the left of the photo, the word "DURHAM" can clearly 
							be seen in the border of one stamp. In the top 
							left-hand corner of the photo, a similar stamp has 
							left the word "POLICE". In the top right-hand corner 
							of the photo, this stamp appears to have been 
							applied again, with the letters "POLI" faintly 
							visible. There may be a fourth stamp in the bottom 
							right-hand corner of the photo, which may also read 
							"DURHAM".   
							One 
							possible explanation for these stamps is that, from 1905, foreign "aliens" who did not hold British 
							citizenship but who lived in England were required 
							to register their presence with the police, in 
							accordance with the Aliens Act. Perhaps 
							this woman registered with Durham Police. The style 
							and quality of the photo are consistent with a date 
							of 1905.   
							However, 
							if the above explanation is accurate, then this is 
							unlikely to have been Fanny Friedman as 
							she lived in Leeds.   
							The 
							photo on the right is in slightly better condition 
							and is much sharper in focus and contrast. It 
							depicts a late-middle-aged man, probably in his 50s. 
							The style of the photo and of the gentleman's dress 
							suggests a date of around 1910. This photo also 
							bears partial markings of two rubber stamps in 
							violet ink. However, these are rectangular stamps, 
							at an angle over the top left- and top right-hand 
							corners of the photo. The stamp at the top left 
							bears the date 1916 inside the rectangle, preceded by a 
							couple of illegible characters. The stamp at the top 
							right bears no date.   
							If this 
							photo was stamped in 1916, and the style of the 
							photo is consistent with that period, this is very 
							unlikely to be Symcha Gutman, as he died in 1908 
							aged around 57. However, if the date of 1916 was an 
							expiry date of some kind, then the photo could have 
							been taken earlier. There seems to be a resemblance 
							between the man in this photo and Joseph Goodman (Gutman Photos Page 
							2), 
							Symcha's son, though this is clearly not Joseph, who 
							was the eldest of his generation.   
							The fact 
							that Shirley's album places these photos 
							side-by-side suggests that they were a couple, and 
							the only known Goodman couple of this age range 
							living in this time period were Symcha and Fanny. 
							The only piece of evidence to possibly contradict 
							this hypothesis is the date on the gentleman's 
							photo. 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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							This 
							photo was in Evelyn Fisher's collection, and she 
							identified this dapper young man as her father's 
							"cousin Jacob", although no cousins of her father's 
							generation have yet been discovered. Jacob married 
							very late in life, possibly towards the end of World 
							War II. 
							He was close to 
							Evelyn's parents when they lived in Chiswick during 
							the 1930s and early 1940s, and he used to visit for 
							weekends, as he lived in the East End of London.
							
							Evelyn 
							said Jacob's surname was Mandelson or Mendelson or 
							similar, so 
							his mother could have been a sister of Symcha Gutman 
							or of Ester Szajndl Frydman, if Jacob was Harry's 
							first cousin. 
								
								
								Do you recognise 
								this gentleman?
								
								Do you know any 
								information about him and his life?
								
								Can you clarify his 
								surname? 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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							This 
							rather strange photo was also in Evelyn Fisher's 
							collection, and she has marked her father, Harry 
							Goodman, as the young man on the right. She thought 
							the young man on the left was his brother Joseph, 
							but this is clearly not the case, as there can be no 
							mistaking Joseph's large frame (Gutman Photos Page 2). 
							  
							
							
							The style of dress and Harry's approximate age date 
							the photo around 1905 so, if the man on the right is 
							Harry's brother, it could be Sam, although Sam was 
							younger than Harry and this man appears older than 
							him here. 
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							can, please contact me at
							
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							This 
							photo was also in Evelyn Fisher's collection, and 
							she identified her father, Harry Goodman, as the man 
							on the far left. She said the others were his 
							siblings, and the young man on the far right could 
							be Morris Goodman. 
							  
							The man 
							in the centre of the photo bears a strong 
							resemblance to the man on the left of the photo 
							above, which may be Sam Goodman. It is possible that 
							the two women could be their two sisters, Gerty 
							Debovitch and Leah Zuck. However, the woman on the 
							left looks very similar to contemporary photos of 
							Harry's wife, Rachel Goodman (née 
							Rose), in which case, if the man in the centre is 
							Sam Goodman, the woman on the right could be his 
							wife, Pearl (née 
							Rosenthal). Sam and Pearl married in 1919, and this 
							photo was certainly taken around that period, so 
							this is possible. However, both the two youngest 
							Goodman brothers, Louis and Morris, married before 
							1920, so this questions the theory that the man on 
							the far right is Morris Goodman, especially as 
							Morris married in 1918. Therefore, it can be 
							concluded that there is serious doubt as to the 
							identities of all the people pictured, apart from 
							Harry Goodman. 
							  
							The 
							photo was taken at a studio in Blackpool, where 
							Harry and Rachel and other members of the family 
							would often go on holiday. 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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							This 
							photo comes Shirley 
							Goodman's old photo album. She was unable to 
							identify this gentleman, but began by saying he was 
							either part of the Goodman family or the unrelated 
							Book family. On a subsequent occasion, Shirley came 
							to the conclusion this man was not a Book, so was 
							probably a Goodman. 
							  
							It is 
							difficult to date this photo, but the gentleman's 
							style of dress suggests it could have been taken in 
							the 1920s. 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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							These 
							photos were lent to me in June 2004 by Shirley 
							Goodman, and appear in the same section of her photo 
							album as the picture of Joseph Goodman with his son 
							Nat, shown on 
							
							
							Gutman Photos Page 2.   
							The 
							photo on the left shows Joseph with a girl who is 
							probably one of his daughters, though I do not know 
							which.   
							The 
							photo in the middle, clearly taken on the same day 
							on the same beach, could depict Joseph's three 
							daughters, Jessie, Rachel and Lily, along with a 
							fourth female. The girl on the left of the group of 
							three is undoubtedly Jessie Goodman and the ring on 
							her left hand shows she was either engaged or 
							married. She married in 1919 and her age in the 
							photo, along with the style of dress etc places it 
							probably in the mid-late 1920s or early 1930s.. If one of the 
							other girls shown 
							here is Lily, then this dates the photo as no later 
							than 1929, as Lily was killed in a car accident that 
							year.   
							The 
							photo on the right shows young women who could be 
							two of Joseph's daughters, along with a young girl 
							who could be a granddaughter. Indeed, she may be the 
							unknown girl shown in the photo below.   
							It is 
							thought these photos may have been taken on 
							Blackpool beach. 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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							This 
							photo also comes from the same section of Shirley 
							Goodman's old photo album and was clearly taken on 
							the same day as those above. Joseph Goodman is the man 
							at the back of the group, and his wife, Sarah 
							Rebecca Goodman 
							(née 
							Harris) is second from the right in the front row. 
							Their eldest daughter, Jessie Goodman, is at the far 
							right of the photo. Joseph died in 1930, so this 
							photo was taken no later than that year. 
							  
							It can be assumed that the 
							other young women 
							are Joseph and Sarah Rebecca's other daughters, Rachel and Lily, 
							plus perhaps a friend or cousin. That 
							leaves a potential 
							granddaughter to be identified, along with which 
							Goodman daughter is which.   
							It is 
							thought this photo may also have been taken on 
							Blackpool beach. 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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							This 
							photo also comes from Shirley Goodman's old photo 
							album. These could be two of the daughters of Joseph 
							Goodman, posing for a comedy photo with some golf 
							clubs in a back garden. The girls' age and mode of 
							dress suggests the photo was taken in the 1920s. It 
							appears to have been somewhat affected by light down 
							its left-hand side. 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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							This 
							photo also comes from the same section of Shirley 
							Goodman's old photo album. Joseph Goodman and his 
							wife, Sarah Rebecca Goodman 
							(née 
							Harris), 
							are standing at the back of the group.   
							The 
							background suggests this photo may have been taken 
							in Leeds. 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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							This 
							photo also comes from Shirley Goodman's old photo 
							album. The man in the centre appears to be Louis 
							Harris Goodman, known universally as "Louis the Coal 
							Man". 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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							This 
							photo also comes from Shirley Goodman's old photo 
							album and appears to depict a group about to go on a 
							trip or outing of some kind. 
							If you 
							can, 
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							These 
							three photos also appear in Shirley Goodman's photo 
							album. The man in the photo on the left could be one 
							of the men in the above photo, so this one may have 
							been taken on the same day. 
								
								
								Could either of the 
								first two couples be Isaac Jacob (aka Jack) 
								Goodman and his wife, Sarah (aka Sadie)?
								
								Could the couple on 
								the right be Louis Harris Goodman and his first 
								wife, Cissie? 
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							can, 
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							This 
							photo also comes from Shirley Goodman's old photo 
							album and is not in particularly good condition. It shows what appears to be the entrance to 
							some kind of yard, adorned with signs. The sign on 
							the left reads "Goodman Bros / Leeds / ...t, 
							Payment, Civility". The sign on the right reads 
							simply "Goodman Bros Leeds". This photo has an air 
							of wartime about it, and the signs look as if they 
							could have been put up fairly quickly. The wording 
							on the left-hand sign is intriguing, without giving 
							away the nature of the Goodmans' business! 
							Unfortunately, the figures are in shadow, so no 
							positive identification can be made. 
								
								
								Do you recognise 
								this place?
								
								Do you have a copy 
								of this photo?
								
								Do you know what 
								business the Goodman brothers owned?
								
								Do you know which 
								Goodman brothers were involved?
								
								Can you explain the 
								wording on the left-hand sign? 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to any of these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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							This 
							photo also comes from Shirley Goodman's old photo 
							album, and is mounted on the same page as the photo 
							of Joseph and Sarah Rebecca Goodman shown at the top 
							of 
							
							Gutman Photos Page 2.
							 
							If you 
							can suggest an answer to this question, 
							please contact me at
							
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							This photo, from Shirley Goodman's album, probably taken around 
							1920, is most likely to be one of the 
							granddaughters of Joseph and Sarah Rebecca, but it 
							is not known which one. 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to any of these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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							This 
							photo was also in Evelyn Fisher's collection, and 
							she identified this man as her uncle, Myer Rose. 
							However, the style of dress and his age are not 
							consistent with it being Myer, plus there is only a 
							tenuous similarity with the photo of him on 
							
							Gutman Photos Page 
							8. 
							Furthermore, Myer Rose had no known connection with 
							Brighton. David Simkin, a specialist in Sussex 
							photographers, 
							confirmed that this photo was taken in the 1890s 
							(though it may be a reprint), and the style of 
							facial hair is typical of the 1870s. Therefore, it 
							has been proven not to be Myer, as Myer was born in 
							1877. 
							  
							The 
							question, therefore, remains, who is he? It has been 
							suggested that there are enough similarities to 
							Myer's father, Abraham Rose (also on 
							
							Gutman Photos Page 8), 
							that he could be an older brother of Abraham. The 
							question remains unanswered. 
								
								
								Can you identify 
								this Victorian gentleman?
								
								Do you have a copy 
								of this photo in your own family collection?
								
								Do you have family 
								history in Brighton, with the surname similar to 
								Brzezinski, Brazenshky, Brazinsky or even Rose? 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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							This 
							photo was lent to me by Roger Rose. He does not know 
							who these two young men are, but thought they could 
							be two brothers of his grandfather, Harry. However, 
							this seems very unlikely, as their style of dress 
							suggests the photo was taken in the 1910s, by which 
							time Harry's brothers would have been in their 30s 
							and 40s. 
							  
							The 
							photo is 4.5cm in length and less than 3.5cm in 
							height, and is in a very fragile condition. The 
							reverse bears a rubber stamp of the Flashette Co of 
							Queen's Arcade, Leeds. 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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							These 
							photos were also lent to me by Roger Rose. It is 
							presumed that his father, Bernard, took them whilst 
							serving in WWII. The one on the far left appears to 
							be a number of soldiers relaxing in the sunshine in 
							front of a building which could, perhaps, be French 
							in design. 
							  
							The two 
							photos in the middle show soldiers walking through a 
							complex consisting of a number of cheaply-made 
							wooden huts, along with a large, imposing, brick 
							building. It is known that Bernard was among the 
							troops involved in clearing dead bodies at the 
							Bergen-Belsen concentration camp in Germany, 
							following its liberation on 15 April 1945. However, 
							it has yet to be confirmed whether these photos 
							were, indeed, taken there. 
							  
							The 
							photo on the far right shows soldiers relaxing, 
							possibly on board a troop ship or at a dockland, but 
							it seems impossible to identify the exact location. 
								
								
								Can you identify 
								any of the locations in these photos?
								
								Were the middle two 
								photos part of Bergen-Belsen concentration camp?
								
								Do you recognise any 
								of the soldiers in the photos, or their 
								uniforms? 
							If you 
							can suggest answers to these questions, 
							please contact me at
							
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